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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Twilight_Warrior » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:59 pm

Fusion wrote:The man didn't care about who hated him or who liked him. He was always in it for the money, regardless of what his church said. The point of it was to get people angry with his members and assault them, allowing him to then legally take money from the populace. He was a horrible person. He organized the picketing of funerals for children and soldiers all because he wanted a quick buck. So no, hating him in death is not stooping to his level. There's a huge difference from picketing the death of a soldier because the army allowed homosexuals to enter and knowing that act would get you punched in the face repeatedly to then acquire money, and hating a leech you just pulled off of your arm and then squished.

The world and humanity itself just got a lot better because of his passing.

It's not near equal, but it's still hypocritical. If you go to a prison and chastise a man for grand theft, then commit petty theft on the way home, the crimes aren't equal, but you'd still be a hypocrite.

This is what I'm focused on, though:
The point of it was to get people angry

Because you're exactly right. And by celebrating his death, by calling him out on being the scum of the Earth, you're still playing exactly into his plan. That the WBC be immortalized and forever remembered. It doesn't matter to them that they're hated, just that they're known.

That's why I don't like hypocritical responses to his death like this. That's why I wish he could've died peacefully and without the media making a big deal out of it. I wish people would be completely apathetic about both his life and his death, that he be written off as just another random and nameless lunatic, so that he, and his message, are forgotten by history and lost to time forever.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby THEWULFMAN » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:38 pm

As much as I hate Phelps, Twilight actually makes an exceedingly valid point. Sadly most of us are just flawed and can't be apathetic about it.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Fusion » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:02 pm

Twilight_Warrior wrote:This is what I'm focused on, though:
The point of it was to get people angry


"...with his members and assault them, allowing him to then legally take money from the populace."

So no, I'm not playing into his plan. He's not getting money from me or anyone else that calls out all of the awful stuff he did after he died, he's dead and unable to sue anyone. He was doing it to upset people but he probably didn't even believe in anything he said or did. Upsetting people wasn't the goal, it was the means.

It's not hypocritical at all to be glad he's gone. He actively went out, got a big group of people, and just spewed hate all over the place whenever someone even faintly linked to a big political issue died. I have made maybe, what, three or four posts ever on the subject of being glad he's in the ground? It's okay to hate a person. Everyone does it. It's not okay to start what's basically a cult devoted to getting punched in the face in the easiest way possible for money.

The petty theft to grand theft comparison doesn't really work. The petty theft comparison would be going to his funeral and picketing it, which, admittedly, is wrong, and no one should do it. You're doing the same crime, just on a lower level and the punishment (or cash-grab) would not be the same. Posting on the internet going "Ding Dong, the witch is dead!"? That's fine. A lot of people, myself included, were targeted by this man's disturbing quest for money and to be completely honest, the less of people like him in the world, the better. I never wished him murdered, I never wished him painfully ill, I'm just glad his time is up.

When something or someone is horrible, it's important to talk about it. Some subjects do require a bias, otherwise we're going to be doomed to repeat them. Sure, some other sociopaths will look at Phelps' life and think, "Me too!", but if someday someone looks through the archives of the internet and sees just how loved this man was, even after his death, I would hope they realize that same thing is going to happen to them and whatever shred of self-awareness they have left wouldn't let them do the same.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Twilight_Warrior » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:19 pm

We will have to respectively agree to disagree. I still think it's hypocritical, and I still believe he should not get any attention at all. Attention leads to Internet searches. Internet searches lead to website hits. Website hits encourage whatever is left of their awful cult.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby ARCTroopaNate » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:47 pm

Totally agree with Twilight, as bad as he was, hating doesn't do anyone any good. It just simply spreads more hate around, just like he did.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby commanderawesome » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:00 pm

RIP My Cat (2008-4/5/2014) :(

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby THEWULFMAN » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:14 am

RIP Mickey Rooney. He had a good long life at least.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Marth8880 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:14 am

Rest in peace, Intel Vice President Uday Marty. http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/four-6- ... ied/ngCHy/ :(

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Firefang » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:02 am

RIP Maya Angelou

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Postby [TFA]Padawan_Fighter » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:08 am

Rest in peace Raggy :(

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Fusion » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:57 am

Kasem was a really good guy who lent his voice to a lot of shows from my childhood. Some of those shows were foolish to choose stupid name parodies of countries over keeping him hired. He might have lost his cool a few times outside of the public eye, but it was almost always warranted. Seriously, who puts a dog death dedication right after an up-tempo song? Ponderous.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby THEWULFMAN » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:19 am

Rest in peace Eli Wallach. One of my favorite actors, and no one had any right to say he wasn't good at what he did. His role as the villain Calvera in The Magnificent Seven sticks with me, as he's one of the reasons I love that movie.

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Postby SpartanA259 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:54 pm

Rest in peace Theodore Van Kirk.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Fusion » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:03 pm

RIP Robin Williams. Confirmed suicide.

I just don't know what to think right now. This is just...wow.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby MileHighGuy » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:28 pm

OMG. RIP Robin Williams. I never would have thought this.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby AQT » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:42 pm

May you rest in peace, Mr. Robin Williams. This is too soon and unimaginable...

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby Marth8880 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:59 am

Ugh. Yeah. Rest in piece, Robin Williams. You were a great person and actor. :(
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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby commanderawesome » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:18 pm

Farewell to one of my mom's favorite actors. And a great actor in general. RIP Robin Williams.

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby [TFA]Padawan_Fighter » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:54 am

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Re: The Gametoast Obituaries

Postby commanderawesome » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:17 pm

They say laughter is the best medicine. And being a comedian, I'm sure Williams would agree.

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