Inside Edit Flags (FAQ)

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:31 pm

well, that depends on how the console is build.
the easiest way (and how pandemic did it i think) is to give the console hard-edged transparency and make the parts that should glow invisible. then make a simple white grid slightly under/behind the actual console, give it another material and then simply put a "02" or "03" in the 5th place for this material.

Null_1138 · Post by **Null_1138** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:42 pm

Hey Duck, I like what you did with the force ghost Obi there, and I want to apply that to a texture that I have. Right now I just have "02" in the fifth place after ATRB, but it makes the whole texture light up, when I want only the brightest part to glow. Would your "51" work for that?

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:58 am

does the texture have transparency? if not you probably dont have to use the 5.
but yes, 01 makes the brighter parts glow more. i cant guarantee that it will work out how you want because i ont know what you want to do with what and because the effects differ depending on the combination of numbers.

Null_1138 · Post by **Null_1138** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:16 pm

Here's said texture. Its going on the shipped kas2_bldg_barrier_msh. What I want to happen is for the light to respond to the light bloom setting (i.e. to glow when it's checked), but I don't want the stone and metal portions to glow as well. Could that be made possible by hex editing, or is a more elaborate method required?

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:30 pm

to make only certain parts glow you have to use a glowmap.
to do that uses repsharpshooters meshtool and choose bumpmap.
open the mshfile with a hexeditor, search for "bump" an rename it to "glow".
now put "16" on the 6th place after atrb and 00 on the 5th place. you could try 02 and 03 on the fith place too, maybe it will make the glow independend form the lighting, i dont know
then make a texture called "texturename_glow" and color everything grey except for the parts you want to have glow. they should have the color they should glow in.

giftheck · Post by **giftheck** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:28 am

AceMastermind wrote:Transparency and tick box options are found 5th place over from ATRB (after "B")
Hex/Name
00 = No transparency/no options ticked
04 = Single sided transparency
08 = Double sided transparency
10 = Hard Edged Transparency(only)
14 = Single sided Transparency with Hard Edged Transparency option ticked
18 = Double sided Transparency with Hard Edged Transparency option ticked

Has anybody ever found out what other options there are beyond these? And what do these actually do? Is it possible through this to have a texture that is double-sided when viewed ingame?

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:44 pm

yes, i did. you can find the results on the first page of this topic

and to your second question: yes, that is exactly the effect.

giftheck · Post by **giftheck** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:16 am

So through the edit flags, I can make the addon kama mesh appear double-sided? Cool, I'll try that.

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:05 pm

yes, you can do it through simple hexeditiing too, but make sure to make it hardedged.

Post by **AQT** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:50 pm

@Null_1138: With that particular MSH, you shouldn't have the 02 in the fifth place after every ATRB. Make sure you only apply it to the MATD(s) that corresponds to the lighted parts. I think, by default, the MATD in which the lighted parts use has 01 in the fifth place after ATRB. That should save you some time from guessing.

DarthD.U.C.K. · Post by **DarthD.U.C.K.** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:33 am

the lights have a seperate material? then you dont have to use the meshtool and a lightmap and just hexedit 02 or 03.

ANDEWEGET · Post by **ANDEWEGET** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:12 pm

Better explanation of the old post:

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The 5th place after ATRB is calculated from all the individual values of the used flags.
Incase the pic goes down:
Emissive - 1 - 01
Glow - 2 - 02
Singlesided - 4 - 04
Doublesided - 8 - 08
Hardedged transparency - 16 - 10
Per Pixel Ligthing - 32 - 20
Additive Transparency - 64 - 40
Specular - 128 - 80

Example: I want to use Specular, Per Pixel Lighting and Emissive.
1. Add all flag values:
Specular + PerPixel Lighting + Emissive
...128.....+.......32............+....1.......= 161
2. Now convert/pack the value so we get the hex representation. In the example it's A1.

New HTML/JS calculator here: http://schlechtwetterfront.github.io/ze_filetypes/

THEWULFMAN · Post by **THEWULFMAN** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:09 pm

If that is what I think it is, and you're saying what I think you're saying, this is freaking awesome and thank you so much! Brilliant stuff!

EDIT: Aw, the program crashes for me.

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Java Plug-in 1.6.0_31

Using JRE version 1.6.0_31-b05 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM

User home directory = C:\Users\THEWULFMAN

----------------------------------------------------

c:   clear console window

f:   finalize objects on finalization queue

g:   garbage collect

h:   display this help message

l:   dump classloader list

m:   print memory usage

o:   trigger logging

q:   hide console

r:   reload policy configuration

s:   dump system and deployment properties

t:   dump thread list

v:   dump thread stack

x:   clear classloader cache

0-5: set trace level to <n>

----------------------------------------------------

java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: ZEFlagCalcApplet : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0

	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)

	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(Unknown Source)

	at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

	at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass0(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager.createApplet(Unknown Source)

	at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Unknown Source)

	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

Exception: java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: ZEFlagCalcApplet : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0

ANDEWEGET · Post by **ANDEWEGET** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:25 pm

This requires the Java version from today which I used to create it. Ive only tested it on my computer so there might be other problems...

THEWULFMAN · Post by **THEWULFMAN** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:27 pm

Jep, I'm installing the newest version as I type.

Post by **AceMastermind** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:23 pm

Outstanding! Thanks for sharing, now we can map out what every value combination is.

Edit:
I also want to post an update on the texture slots 1-3 in Edit Flags based on what i've seen looking through a lot of msh files. I don't think it matters which slot you put detail and bump texture names. Just start with the first slot, but order doesn't seem to make a difference, they simply need to be listed. Environment map textures are consistently listed in the 3rd slot(TX3D) though, even if no other textures are listed.

Marth8880 · Post by **Marth8880** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:22 pm

Tests!

Basic cube, white texture, opacity 25%, glow + single-sided transparency (00 00 00 00 06).

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Same mesh and texture, no glow, only single-sided transparency (00 00 00 00 04).

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Same mesh and texture, opacity 50%, glow + single-sided transparency (00 00 00 00 06).

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It appears that transparency gets rid of the bloom but still brightens the pixels, just like when one has light bloom turned off, but at least the transparency is still retained.

Post by **AceMastermind** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:35 am

All possible 5th place flags:

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Hex | Flag/s 

00 = Nothing

01 = Emissive

02 = Glow

03 = Emissive + Glow

04 = Singlesided

05 = Emissive + Singlesided

06 = Glow + Singlesided

07 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided

08 = Doublesided  

09 = Emissive + Doublesided

0A = Glow + Doublesided

0B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided

10 = Hardedged

11 = Emissive + Hardedged

12 = Glow + Hardedged

13 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged

14 = Singlesided + Hardedged

15 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged

16 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged

17 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged

18 = Doublesided + Hardedged

19 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged

1A = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged

1B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged

20 = Per-Pixel Lighting

21 = Emissive + Per-Pixel Lighting

22 = Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting

23 = Emissive + Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting

24 = Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

25 = Emissive + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

26 = Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

27 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

28 = Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

29 = Emissive + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

2A = Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

2B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting

30 = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

31 = Emissive + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

32 = Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

33 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

34 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

35 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

36 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

37 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

38 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

39 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

3A = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

3B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

40 = Additive

41 = Emissive + Additive

42 = Glow + Additive

43 = Emissive + Glow + Additive

44 = Singlesided + Additive

45 = Emissive + Singlesided + Additive

46 = Glow + Singlesided + Additive

47 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Additive

48 = Doublesided + Additive

49 = Emissive + Doublesided + Additive 

4A = Glow + Doublesided + Additive

4B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Additive

50 = Hardedged + Additive

51 = Emissive + Hardedged + Additive

52 = Glow + Hardedged + Additive

53 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Additive

54 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive

55 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive

56 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive

57 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive 

58 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive

59 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive

5A = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive

5B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive

60 = Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

61 = Emissive + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

62 = Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

63 = Emissive + Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

64 = Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

65 = Emissive + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

66 = Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive 

67 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

68 = Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

69 = Emissive + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

6A = Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

6B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

70 = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

71 = Emissive + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

72 = Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

73 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

74 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

75 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

76 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

77 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

78 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

79 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

7A = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

7B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

80 = Specular

81 = Emissive + Specular

82 = Glow + Specular

83 = Emissive + Glow + Specular

84 = Singlesided + Specular

85 = Emissive + Singlesided + Specular

86 = Glow + Singlesided + Specular

87 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Specular

88 = Doublesided + Specular

89 = Emissive + Doublesided + Specular

8A = Glow + Doublesided + Specular

8B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Specular

90 = Hardedged + Specular

91 = Emissive + Hardedged + Specular

92 = Glow + Hardedged + Specular

93 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Specular

94 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Specular

95 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Specular

96 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Specular

97 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Specular

98 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Specular

99 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Specular

9A = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Specular

9B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Specular

A0 = Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A1 = Emissive + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A2 = Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A3 = Emissive + Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A4 = Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A5 = Emissive + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A6 = Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A7 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A8 = Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

A9 = Emissive + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

AA = Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

AB = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B0 = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B1 = Emissive + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B2 = Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B3 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B4 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B5 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B6 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B7 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B8 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B9 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

BA = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

BB = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

C0 = Additive + Specular

C1 = Emissive + Additive + Specular

C2 = Glow + Additive + Specular

C3 = Emissive + Glow + Additive + Specular

C4 = Singlesided + Additive + Specular

C5 = Emissive + Singlesided + Additive + Specular

C6 = Glow + Singlesided + Additive + Specular

C7 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Additive + Specular

C8 = Doublesided + Additive + Specular

C9 = Emissive + Doublesided + Additive + Specular

CA = Glow + Doublesided + Additive + Specular

CB = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Additive + Specular

D0 = Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D1 = Emissive + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D2 = Glow + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D3 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D4 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D5 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D6 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D7 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D8 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

D9 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

DA = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

DB = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Additive + Specular

E0 = Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E1 = Emissive + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E2 = Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E3 = Emissive + Glow + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E4 = Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E5 = Emissive + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E6 = Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E7 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E8 = Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

E9 = Emissive + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

EA = Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

EB = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F0 = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F1 = Emissive + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F2 = Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F3 = Emissive + Glow + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F4 = Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F5 = Emissive + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F6 = Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F7 = Emissive + Glow + Singlesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F8 = Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F9 = Emissive + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

FA = Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

FB = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided + Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

You can see the pattern if you look closely.

These high bit values always represent these flags:

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0 = Nothing

1 = Hardedged

2 = Per-Pixel Lighting

3 = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting

4 = Additive 

5 = Hardedged + Additive

6 = Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

7 = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive

8 = Specular

9 = Hardedged + Specular

A = Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

B = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Specular

C = Additive + Specular

D = Hardedged + Additive + Specular

E = Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

F = Hardedged + Per-Pixel Lighting + Additive + Specular

These low bit values always represent these flags:

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= Nothing

= Emissive

= Glow

= Emissive + Glow

= Singlesided

= Emissive + Singlesided

= Glow + Singlesided

= Emissive + Glow + Singlesided

= Doublesided

= Emissive + Doublesided

A = Glow + Doublesided

B = Emissive + Glow + Doublesided

C, D, E and F are invalid low bit values since you can't have Single and Doublesided at the same time.

Pair up a high bit and low bit value to complete a hex value.

THEWULFMAN · Post by **THEWULFMAN** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:34 am

Wow Ace, thanks a Quadrillion! That list is very helpful and saves everyone a lot of trouble.

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